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29242

You live in a country with strange banking rules.

I will move onto the next poster so i can answer two questions at once.

29236.

If you don't know anybodies account numbers and branch numbers then how do you do electronic banking?

I personally know the details for 35 people and companies so that i can deposit money into their accounts electronically 24 hours every day.
There is no law that says you can't hold these details if the account holder permits this information to you.

This is how money is transferred nationally and internationally.

ELECTRONIC BANKING!


So the hypothetical question remains as both of you have not answered legally yet.

ARE YOU GUILTY OF RECEIVING ILLEGAL FUNDS IF YOU HAVE NOT ACCESSED THE BANK ACCOUNT SINCE THE SUSPICIOUS TRANSACTION?



YOUR MOUTH IS GOING TO DROP WHEN YOU LEARN WHO THE REGULAR LONG TIME ZOL BLOGGER IT INVOLVES.

29247

Peter,

At least you have been honest in your assessment and I appreciate that. You see, everything comes down to a simple choice. You are averse to religion, so anything that has religious overtones sounds wrong to you. However, you have no way of disproving any of the Bible "tales". Despite the great evidence and the many witnesses that attest to the veracity of the scriptures, your natural inclination is to reject the Bible and what it says. Well, I cannot change that but I can ask that you only challenge the Bible the way you challenge any other truth claim - scientifically. The truth, however incredulous, is that the Bible has had more witnesses and more experiments that establish the truth of its "tales" than any other book from that era of history. So I see a double standard at work in scientific circles (especially among atheists and agnostics) where religious claims are judged by one standard and non-religious claims are judged by another. And, at the base of all this is nothing than mere feelings...Peter, neither you nor Hawking can actually scientifically disprove religion can you? I repeat, there is no contradiction between science and true religion!

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Angel,

You are right in saying that science has not proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, how the Universe was created from nothingness. What science has done so far is lay down a number of plausible theories backed by solid science.

You and I have a different constitution, it seems to me. I will choose scientific theories any day, over those bible tales. The problem for me, with some of the metaphysics ideas is that any quack and any deranged individual can come up with the same. I am not making the claim that religious people are deranged. But I think there is a certain common denominator between religion and deranged. The only reason the deranged do not venture into the scientific field is that science has a way to flushing out any pretender.

The demarcation, as you say, between metaphysics and physics is absolutely clear to me. Physics excludes God in the explanation of the Universe. The moment you introduce God into the equation, all the complex questions in life can be explained very simply. Either one says, because the bible says so. Or one claims that, it is so because I can feel it. Anything except concrete evidence.

So no, physics has not yet explained everything. But what physics has explained is far more sensible to me, than bible tales.

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@EAK, thanks for clarifying the situation. However, I have to ask the question, why have the MMD not followed their constitution on when to hold the convention? I am not a supporter of MMD but as the ruling party what they do affects the governance of the country. Rupiah Banda's regime has really shown undemocratic tendencies which have translated into poor governance for the country.

@Celsius, I hope you are right. But looking at the other parties and even the MMD in the case of Shakafuswa and Chibombamilimo, the parties are yet to remove their MPs by force! None of the parties has managed to "beat" the courts on these expulsions. The 14 rebel PF MPs, UPND's Chizyuka, MMDs Shakafuswa...all these are still in their respective parties despite having been expelled! I don't see why Mpombo and Magande cannot be successful in stalling the expulsion process also.

@Peter, your take on the demarcation between metaphysical and physics is unclear to me. Why would the belief in God's existence turn a matter into a metaphysical matter? If Hawkings can show scientifically exactly how the universe began and what was responsible for it, the point of God's existence becomes moot! However, neither Hawkings nor any other human being will be able to explain the origin of the universe because it does not lend itself to such enquiry. Actually, the question here is which faith do you believe in - the faith of Hawkings or the faith of Christ! Both are making truth claims on the genesis of the universe. One says "In the beginning, God created...", the other says "In the beginning, there was a chance encounter of some gaseous matter that led to a big bang...". Who will you believe? I think the choice is as simple as that!

29244

Pride comes before dishonour.The price of unfounded pride and indiscipline will usher the duo into the political wilderness. And may they be sobered up out there.

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angel

foresight is there alright and the comedy has began by the opposition not knowing how long it takes for 'groundnuts to actually mature'.

you see my friend the political landscape is levelled pretty well and significantly 'slanted' advantagiously towards people with hunger to win.

those rules about conventions and legitimacy of the NEC can be contested succesfully in a court of law.

and one thing is look at the new constitution and see how many months a seat can be vacant before general elections

in other countries oppostion can take the governement to the high and force bye elections when the ruling party has reservations about holding such for many reasons.

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29235,

I don’t know about the banking rules in this Within Reason country you reside. Where I reside, the transfer you described can only happen under one set of conditions. The person makes the transfer has his name on both accounts. In other words, both accounts were opened in his name alone or with him as a cosigner.

And here where I reside, people with joint accounts are answerable to each other’s money transactions. They are partners in crime, if you will.

29241

Mr president!
If agriculture will need to be a primary driver toward diversification, you need to signal that Govt policies supporting this sector are all encompassing, i refer to FRA failure to timely pay farmers for the maize purchased. The current bottlenecks in this area will surely cost your administration next year, because everything sim to have been exacerbated by your failure to capitalise and enhance efficiency of FRA. Remember this sector affects the majority of zambian votes. Friendly advise.

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Ba Kambili,

Okay, my brother. Its okay. I just want to encourage him along with his entry on ZOL.

Stay well!

Name: kambili | Country of residence: pasu | Written: Sunday, 5 September 2010 (13:42) 29225

Robby it's safe to say Executive is not as high as you make him.

Even you my friend will see the Reaping and Ripening of his education.

hehe
Although we do know a family member known for admiration to be in that position and also prone to substitute words.

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‘PF more tribal’


THE Patriotic Front (PF) is the most tribalised political party in the country, followed by the United Party for National Development (UPND), while the Movement for Multi-party Democracy (MMD) has been cited as the party that is most national in character and in scope, a new survey has revealed.

Findings of the research reveal that the MMD has a presence in all the regions of the country and President Banda enjoys cross- cutting national political support while the PF enjoys most of its support from Northern Province, some parts of Luapula, the Copperbelt and Lusaka provinces.

The UPND derives most of its support from the Southern province, some parts of North-Western and Western and a section of Central Province.

The research team has since recommended that all political parties should endeavour to go for national conventions or congresses to elect national leaders because in such cases, participants are drawn from all the nine provinces of Zambia reinforcing a national characteristic of the parties instead of those merely handpicked.

The methodology used in the research was to review secondary data, such as lists of people on party national executive committees (NEC), provincial, district and constituency committees including lists of MPs currently serving in Parliament per political party and lists of candidates adopted to stand in two previous general elections and analysing the provinces in which particular political parties were strong.

This study comes in the wake of another research which was undertaken by the Centre for Policy Dialogue which showed that the PF-UPND pact was tribal as most members drawn from the two parties were either Bemba or Tonga.

This latest survey, which has been undertaken by the Leadership in Development (LID), a non-governmental organisation (NGO) in conjunction with the Integrated Management Consultants (IMC), selected three major political parties, the MMD, the PF and the UPND for the exercise.

LID executive director Moses Kalonde in a summarised statement released in Lusaka said that the organisation conducted a desk top research to establish which political parties in the nation had the most nationwide appeal and those that were more regionally or tribally inclined.

He said the study focused on the general membership of the supporters of the political parties and their leaderships in party structures from the grassroots to the national leadership.

Mr Kalonde said the study also looked at what percentage a specific tribal grouping belonged to a party and also evaluated information on candidates who were adopted to stand in the last two general elections.

According to the findings, the PF had the highest representation of one tribe at central committee, provincial committee, district and constituency levels.

A closer scrutiny of the PF shadow cabinet of the 2006 general elections indicated that most of the ministers would have come from the Northern Province.

And a search at the Lusaka Civic Centre has revealed that over 60 percent of the PF councillors in Lusaka are of Bemba-speaking origin, a situation which largely contrasts the district population which is dominated by people originating from the Eastern Province.

Mr Kalonde said a similar exercise carried out at the Ndola and Kitwe Civic centres indicated a similar trend as that of Lusaka.

The UPND, according to the study, comes a close second to the PF largely because of its Tonga-speaking leader Hakainde Hichilema who hails from the Southern Province. Most of the MPs of the party also come from the same area.

“The MMD has a more national appeal and has its presence everywhere in the country and this is even supported by the electoral map produced by the Electoral Commission of Zambia (ECZ) following the 2008 elections results.

“President Rupiah Banda has a cross of people who supported and still support him regardless of tribe,” Mr Kalonde said.

Mr Kalonde recommended that all parties must go to a national convention to elect national leaders, adding that since such congresses allow a cross-section of people from all the nine provinces of Zambia to attend, the leaders that emerge from there are more widely accepted and the tribal tag falls off.

He observed that constitutions of political parties must have balancing elements in order to take care of inherent factors that lead to one group of people dominating the organisation.

The LID leader also noted that political parties must desist from using dominant languages during official meetings and stick to the official English language to avoid tribal dominance in political parties
He also observed that since Zambia has 74 languages, political parties must develop policies that will ensure balance of power is maintained.

“This means deliberately including representatives from all the nine provinces of Zambia in the national, provincial and local structures, including the lists of adopted candidates for elections,” he said