Too much petty politics and corruption pa zed. The true Zambian freedom fighters who were convinced they were fighting for a worthy cause and were prepared to die for it and they did die for it, they all died in vain. I'm sad to say. Every last one of need not have put their lives on the lines. Not for this ungrateful, stupid, lazy, crooked generation. They should have said, fućk this shit and went on living their lives.

I second that!

Anyway, on a more serious note, Kaunda is one of those pathetically over-rated ass holes. By virtue of being the first head of State of a country doesn't necessarily make someone special. Same as by virtue of secreting one's semen into a vagina and fathering a child does not make one a good father. I'm sure we all know some idiot fathers roaming the earth.

Kaunda is shit.

Heaven forgive him but if KK had quit in 1975, Zambia today would have been a much more prosperous country. Maybe more prosperous than Botswana and even RSA today with Zuma's idiocy. I truly believe this. KK is not as bad as Mugabe but he should have quit in 1975 in order to give Zambia a better chance of prosperity.

The Kaunda days are back alright. They are known as the sata era.

@ Mbovu ... lol... those where the good old days my friend. I've gotta rest now, its 02:48 over here!!

Oh! so you are no spring chicken after all.

You and I are in the same boat, Kanyangu. I grew up when the word 'Kaunda' was synonymous with the word 'president'. A kid would say, I want to be Kaunda when I grow up. Then another kid would wonder, who is the Kaunda of america?

@Mbovu... you didn't catch my "joke". What I was trying to say is that..


if Kaunda days are back, then people would've got freebies like rockbuns, "loko banzi", milk in triangular cartons, biscuts, fanta coca cola like i got during Kaunda days,

infact i left Zambia when Dr Kaunda Wamuyayaya.. was still president. I got whisked away to explore the world! Before people started queuing up for "saladi, safu, sopo, whitespoon sugar, lol..

Kanyangu

You must be a spring chicken.

No, no, no, don’t come after me with a machete, thinking I insulted you. Spring chicken is only a term we use to describe a young fellow.

In your case, if you never enjoyed free coca cola and Fanta and loko banzi on Independence day, that’s an indication that you were born in the 1980s or later. By then, Kaunda’s dunderheadness had already depleted all the country’s resources and kafupi was poised to usher in an era of state funded thievery.

say what!!! did you get free milk and rockbuns on independence day?

xqweeB <a href="http://rlerswdelufd.com/">rlerswdelufd</a>

That's a sensible answer to a challenging qusetoin

dunce cap wrote :
> That's right slum woof! If you are out smarted change the tack of the
> argument.
>
> Your new arrangement must be "if you cannot convince them, confuse
> them" right?
>
> Just accept that you got academically trounced bru.
>
> You win some and get bitch slapped sometimes.
>
> And to lighten the tense military mood, my friends whether its a MIG
> Typhoon, tom cat or ATR, WE STILL HAVE NO BLOODY FUEL TO FLY THE BUGGERS!!!

izw8zZ <a href="http://wicbszllemet.com/">wicbszllemet</a>

My argument has not changed it still stands those jets are old migs that are about to fall apart. These retard character claims they are upgraded while in his senseless chainama copy and paste he posted a link which debunks himself. he claims our zambian jets can fire nato missiles( hehehe) and even posts images he googled imaged erroneausly of another jet. You see this is the thing with most idiots who use google they think what you type into google and comes up is the answer when googgle is just like a pile of papers in rubbish pit. I think retard used to be some cadet or some corporal because they are usually the most confused and stupified bunch we have in our army. i doubt he has ever even conversed with any of the top brass because what I am saying would probably make sense to him.

Slum imbwa, you are so full of it. And thanks for wasting my time. I actually took the time to read most of your rubbish and realised just how full of it you are.

That's right slum woof! If you are out smarted change the tack of the argument.

Your new arrangement must be "if you cannot convince them, confuse them" right?

Just accept that you got academically trounced bru.

You win some and get bitch slapped sometimes.

And to lighten the tense military mood, my friends whether its a MIG Typhoon, tom cat or ATR, WE STILL HAVE NO BLOODY FUEL TO FLY THE BUGGERS!!!

LOL

You are really stupid

Do you know what EXIF data is? well I will tell you its information that every picture has , its origin. You may want to know that the pictures you posted are not

Now the picture you stupidly posted from SAAF forum if you look at the exif data it tells you the origin of the picture is http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2710/lancercockpit3yn9.jpg

which if you read tells you its a lancer cockpit,

hehehheheheheeh

You see retard when you run to google images and come back and accuse others of googling the more foolish you yourself will look . I have gathered you are the one thats a google champion because all your information seems to be from misinformation central i.e google. I am fascinated by your foolishness on how adamant you are that you are correct and yet putting up pictures of mig lancer cockpits as mig 21 2000 hehehehe. I very much doubt you know even anything about the military in Zambia hence your stupidity and ignorance at it. I can probably sit you down and school on Zambian military intelligence and tell you how Zambia has no army that can repel an attack and just full of hearsay to keep soldiers morale from shattering

Talk about being an idiot you can't even make up your mind first its nato missiles now you want to claim ati nato standard when no such thing exists. I bet next you will be bullcraping that Zambia has nato submarines which move through dust

I think it's fair to say that Zambia's top military secrets have been cracked wide open by Slumdog and Retard. he he he

I repeat Slumdog stop talking through your arse. You know nothing about this topic or not enough anyway to be an expert and worth arguing with. You even cite data which is well known to any defence expert on Zambia and which was already explain by me and my friends.

Mwana you seriously need to be mentally examined. You really have a problem.

Ba Slumdog we cipuyba we. Read the info. OK. Python-3 and Python-4 missiles can be fired from the Mig-21 2000. Python-3 and Python-4 wiring can also fire Sidewinder and Magic missiles. They conform to NATO standards and can be fired from any fighter plane with NATO standard wiring and data bus. As for the Mig-21 2000 Cockpit pictures, here you go. Genuine ones. You see the Mig 21 2000 is an upgrade to NATO standards hence the old Warsaw Pact nations like Czech, Hungary, Rumania, Poland operating Mig 21s can operate NATO weaponry. OK. It is a NATO requirement.

Secondly foool, I already said CHiluba failed to pay for some aircraft and IAI kept them. They later showed up at an airshow and Russia actually handed Zambia a diplomatic note protesting this. Some more pictures of the Mig-21 2000 Cokpit and you can go and check their provenance. They have the F-16I cockpit with the same MFDs and HUD. As for Mig-21 612 The reason I put it there someone asked me if it was a Mig-21 2000 and even argued the number series is wrong as the Mig-21s are using another number series as the AF6xx series is used by some transport planes. However it ovious you cannot read.