Dirty dirty creamland.

[Nu zed]

Dear Zambia,
i am disgusted by this dirty icecream place.its located in cairo road opposite the post office.the owner talks too much,hs dirty inclusive his dirty workerz and machines.i am vry serious when it comes to hygiene. We should have standards as zambians and i surely advice any1 not to go there.

[beiber]

true.....i have been there,that place is a dirty stinking dungeon with flies all over the place

[iza]

Not so true.the place has been greatly improved and renovated .has the best ice cream in town.iam a regular customer there.check it out for yourself

[Claire]

I think the place requires much improvement. Its actually dirty if you look beyond the ice-cream.yes the place has been renovated but to what standard? For me personally,after being to the place just yesterday to see for myself, i would say the place is dirty and yes there many flies.

[Embarrased]

Iza,

If you think that place is fine and up to acceptable standards, then I don't want to know what your home looks like. Yes, their soft-serve ice cream is arguably the best in town, but that is no reason for the owners to overlook basic hygiene and safety issues. When waiting in line, the hot air from one of the machines hits you directly on your face! The chairs are dirty, the floor is dirty, the machines are too. As for the owner, I think he is clean but simply doesn't give a rat's arse. As for his son (I assume) on the till, I expect more from him in terms of moving Creamland into the 21st century. It's one of the oldest ice cream places in Lusaka still existing, and that's something they can work to their own advantage. But alas, it's not in our blood.

[neutral]

hi.i think u have some issues with the guy runin the icecream shop n u nw tryin to release all ur hatred n enemity with da place,if u dnt lyk wy they sell dn y dnt u go else wher n buy

[Sembe]

Here we go again. Now it's ice cream. Have you kids ever heard of chikoloki? Water, sugar and voilà!

You kids should really try old school. if you are desperate for an afternoon sweet snack, just pour sugar in your chest pocket, take the shell of a pen and use it as a straw to suck the sugar from your pocket. That's how you do it. who needs ice cream?

[Creamland Faithful]

Please feel free to go elsewhere. Those of us who can handle it will continue enjoying our favourite ice cream. It's your call but please stick to the matter at hand and don't disparage the owner as he is an affable and welcoming gentleman. If he dealt with you without saying a single word you'd cry foul and say he has no customer service etiquette. I encourage you to exercise your right to choose an alternative ice-cream parlour like Milky Lane - twice the price but the ice-cream leaves much to be desired.

[Dr. A.S.S. Waboza]

Besides, a little bacteria in one scoop and a few maggots in the next scoop, and a lump of fungus in the next scoop are ultimately good for you. They help strengthen your immune system. These seemingly ugly foreign items in your ice cream help your immunoglobulin to become acclimatized to fighting aggressive invaders of your body on a sub molecular level. So stop whining and eat the stinky ice cream.

[Momin Zed]

Instead of ranting on this website, which most probably the owners will never come across, why don't you write to the owners themselves and see what response you get. Though, of course, you won't be able to write it with such rudeness.

[LetsStartA revolution]

Immediately i saw this i phoned them coz they are my friends and i told them and they have promised to improve and thanked you all.

[centmas]

My family has been going to cream land since we were kids in the eighties. I now leave in Mazabuka with my own family, but whenever we travel to Lusaka, we do not forget the cool box (to take fish for our friends and family in Lusaka, and to buy cream land ice cream on our way back).

Yes, the place was renovated a couple of years ago (to include wall tiles, mirrors, etc). However, I tend to agree that the standard of cleanliness inside is not up to date, but this is a minor issue. I notice they have had almost the same committed workers for a long time now. (I think that lady must have done more than 12 years now.). it is just a question of changing and aligning the attitudes. The ice cream is still the best!!!

[Dodo]

Peoples who say this is the best ice cream in town while at the same time admitting that the hygiene standard at the joint is questionable,, please pardon me for thinking there has to be something wrong with your palate.

When I'm eating something in any joint and I notice any disgusting scene, that directly translates to the taste of whatever I'm eating. In my humble opinion, an unhygienic place serving the most delicious ice-cream is in itself an oxymoron. It's a contradiction in terms. It is impossible.

[Creamland Faithful]

Might I humbly suggest that you then buy ice cream from The Sweet Spot at Manda Hill. You'll get yourself a 500 ml tub of Super Premium Haagen-Dazs ice cream at K80, 000. And yes, their surroundings are impeccably clean. Definitely no oxymorons there. For the rest of us who don't fear extinction; Viva Creamland!

[Dodo]

Mrs. Faithful, Thanks.

If you give me two choices between this so called Creamland and the K80,000 ice cream on the Hill, I will have to insist on a third option. No more ice cream for me. I will just have to go back to my childhood ingenuity. I used to steal powdered milk and sugar from my mother’s cupboard, mix it up and suck it down like the way Ghadaffi sucks down water when he’s riding his camel in the desert.

[zoro]

people can we be realistic enough, ice creame from cream land taste best in LSK than in any other place, but the truth is that the ice cream shop itself is not clean enough up to standards.its kinda futhy by current lusaka standards
its high time the owner doese some refurbishment

[Settler]

zoro wrote :
> its high time the owner doese some refurbishment!

Wishful thinking Zoro! We Indians want to make our homes look beautiful and clean (who deosn't) but when it comes to our place of business, for some reason, that cleanliness goes out the window. You know why? Because we still feel in 2011 that the clients we serve are dirty, poor, shanty town dwellers who wouldn't mind transacting in a filthy place. Old thoughts die hard.

Besides that, the logic goes like this. If people are buying ice cream from my filthy place, why should I spend money on improvements? Stupid logic I tell you.

[Guest]

you setler dont accuse indians i think you are from misissi compound, just confide in me i wont tell any one

[Settler]

See what I mean?!

[Indigenous]

Settler wrote :
> Wishful thinking Zoro! We Indians want to make our homes look beautiful and clean
> (who deosn't) but when it comes to our place of business, for some reason, that
> cleanliness goes out the window. You know why? Because we still feel in 2011 that the
> clients we serve are dirty, poor, shanty town dwellers who wouldn't mind transacting
> in a filthy place. Old thoughts die hard.

Mr. Indian Settler,
I get the feeling that you do not exactly subscribe to the Indian mentality you described. I mean about the place of business filth. Good thing for you, you are one of the lucky ones. I saw a documentary about India. How in some shanties, human waste is let to stand in the streets. And those untouchables who clean up buckets of other people's sh*t. There are some scenes out of Indian cities that could make a Zambian pig blush. I mean filth that could put a Zambian pig to shame because it is beyond comprehension.

At 75% literacy, this means a good 300 million of the 1.2 billion Indians cannot read or write. The sheer numbers of Indians who live in filth and poverty in India is staggering.

This is not a swipe at any good Zambian Indians. It's only meant to bring things into a certain perspective. I think there are some young indigenous Zambians kids out there who might be under the impression that there is something inherently holy or superior about Indians. No there isn't. Nor is there anything inherently holy or about Zambians. Nor inherently inferior. We are all the same.